I agree with you. It seems people in the Tyger Tyger conspiracy are hunting for Red John and would do absolutely anything to reach that goal.

<p>If they're willing to do "Anything", then they would have asked Kirkland for his list of suspects because if they're not with Red John then they don't know the list of suspects is a fake.  I think it's funny that Jane didn't tell Kirkland "just tell me here and now, because everyone that promises to tell me something later dies before they can".  </p>

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I don't think RJ is member of Tyger Tyger, why did Craig O'Laughlin kill Todd Johnson<span style="line-height:20px;"> ?</span></i></div>
<p>Craig O'Laughlin killed Todd Johnson on Red John's orders because he knew too much about him and Tyger Tyger... If you think of it, it seems like the Tyger Tyger members are blackmailed by Red John who has hard proof on what crimes they did to join the Tyger Tyger group, unless he's one of them all along, and it's probable that they help and support him to become untouchable and unreachable by anyone (For example: Taking care of incriminating proofs and witnesses, provide valuable information, etc...), which explains his accomplices in various law inforcement agencies including the CBI mole (Craig O'Laughlin), the sheriff from Season 1 finale (Dumar Tanner), the <i>good friend</i> in the FBI (who I think is Reede Smith), and MAYBE someone who gets rid of forensic proof (Brett Partridge), etc... </p><p>In the end, all will be revealed... </p>

<p>I find this whole Tyger Tyger thing interesting as well, I'm skeptical that Red John is a member (or possibly a leader), it seems like the aims of Tyger Tyger are exactly opposite to his own.  In other words it seems like the point of the Tyger Tyger murders is to cover up that the crimes were committed and to deflect attention away from the guilty parties.  By contrast, Red John draws attention to himself and his murders showing them off.  Here's a thought, Red John is actually Ray Haffner and Haffner left the police force to start his own thing because he discovered Tyger Tyger and wants to go after them in some way.  The concept sounds unlikely for a serial killer but I'd be surprised if Red John was revealed to be so simple as a cold serial killer with nothing more than a desire for attention and sadism. </p><p>Why did he leave Lisbon alive?  Why did he kill Brett?  Why didn't some of the known Red John affiliates such as Lureli (sp?) not seem to have any mention of Tyger Tyger?  Time and time again we've seen Red John disciples who don't seem to fit the profile of Tyger Tyger members so either Tyger Tyger is a much larger group and conspiracy of which Red John is just a member (I'm skeptical), or Red John isn't a member, or Tyger Tyger extends well beyond the law enforcement groups. </p><p>Based on their conversation it certainly seemed like Bertram and Reede were in on a conspiracy together, which would imply McAllister was as well since Reede spoke openly in front of him to Bertram. </p><p>What role does Visualize play in the whole thing?  I think there's a strong reason to believe they are connected, quite possibly knowing who Red John is but it sounded like they are against him based on some comments by Bret Stiles (seems unlikely that Stiles is Red John based on age and affiliation though he's one of the few who seems smart enough and would have the means). </p>

<p>Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger you idiots. Them other guys follow Him. I don't get how Bertram is a confirmed member, I live in UK </p>

<p>Bertram is a confirmed member from episdoe Black-Winged Redbird (Season 6, episode 2) where Reede Smith, Gale Bertram and Sheriff Thomas McAllister are meeting together, Jane walks into the meeting and then talks about being close to catching Red John.  After Jane leaves, Smith says to Betram that he is supposed to be controlling Jane (or something like that, I can't remember the exact words). </p>

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Bertram is a confirmed member from episdoe Black-Winged Redbird (Season 6, episode 2) where Reede Smith, Gale Bertram and Sheriff Thomas McAllister are meeting together, Jane walks into the meeting and then talks about being close to catching Red John.  After Jane leaves, Smith says to Betram that he is supposed to be controlling Jane (or something like that, I can't remember the exact words).</i></div>
<p>Smith told Bertram that they have to know how much Jane knows about RJ, and that it's Bertram's job to monitor Jane's actions... </p>

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Red John is the leader of Tyger Tyger you idiots. Them other guys follow Him. I don't get how Bertram is a confirmed member, I live in UK</i></div>
<p>That's exactly what I said. Go read my theory it's the one with the conclusion <i> In the end, all will be revealed... </i>. </p>

<p>Todd Johnson was not Tyger Tyger, as he was not involved in Law enforcement. </p><p>Red John is not Tyger Tyger, they're the next main villains after PJ has dealt with Red John </p>

If "Tyger Tyger" is a code for all accomplice why Rebecca didn't say "Tiger Tiger" before or after she killed Bosco and his team?