<p>Couldn't McAllister just killed all of them, including Jane since he was going to in the recent episode, with the bomb... If he wanted Jane and "Red John" dead, they both could have perished in the blast... no one would look any further. </p>

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Couldn't McAllister just killed all of them, including Jane since he was going to in the recent episode, with the bomb... If he wanted Jane and "Red John" dead, they both could have perished in the blast... no one would look any further.</i></div>
<p>Refer to my thread "His Great Red Passion". </p><p>Best, </p><p>Jay Roth. </p>

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Couldn't McAllister just killed all of them, including Jane since he was going to in the recent episode, with the bomb... If he wanted Jane and "Red John" dead, they both could have perished in the blast... no one would look any further.</i></div>
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Yes, of course.  But then RJ wouldn't have had the opportunity to gloat and to monologue (verb).  I'm also reminded of what Tuco said in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly:  "If you have to shoot, shoot!  Don't talk!"  Jane was also guilty of neglecting this maxim. </p>

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Why did McAllister specifically move bertram, smith and patrick out of harms way?(Aside from getting away) This tells me that he WANTED to kill stiles and haffner. But the question is why? Maybe he hates visualise. </i></div>
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Well there's still the possibility that he also removed haffner and stiles from the scene, and he actually brought three bodies with him and had partridge replace dna records for all three of them.  If McAllister, in the end, truly believed he was a psychic, then he probably still respects Visualize, which is an organization that believes in "true psychics" and would not have killed their leader off.  In the interview with heller that was in that magazine, he said something like "In the world of the mentalist, there are real dead bodies in that house for sure".  He did not say they were any of <i>their</i> dead bodies at all. </p>

<p>But there is only one thing i don't understand... </p><p>Why <i>Red John</i>? I mean his name is <i>Thomas McAllister</i> where does the <i>John</i> comes from?  </p><p>Damn you Heller, at the end, we only knew a face, not a cause... </p>

<p>John Doe is the name given to someone who is unknown. </p><p>Red is most likely because of the blood. </p>

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Why did McAllister specifically move bertram, smith and patrick out of harms way?(Aside from getting away) This tells me that he WANTED to kill stiles and haffner. But the question is why? Maybe he hates visualise. </i></div>

Well there's still the possibility that he also removed haffner and stiles from the scene, and he actually brought three bodies with him and had partridge replace dna records for all three of them.  If McAllister, in the end, truly believed he was a psychic, then he probably still respects Visualize, which is an organization that believes in "true psychics" and would not have killed their leader off.  In the interview with heller that was in that magazine, he said something like "In the world of the mentalist, there are real dead bodies in that house for sure".  He did not say they were any of <i>their</i> dead bodies at all. </div> <p>I thought the same thing about what Heller said in that interview. Nothing about what he said confirms that the other 2 bodies in the house were Haffner and Stiles. If McAllister faked his death, he could of faked the deaths of Sties & Haffner.  </p><p>I never really considered what Jane said about Partridge swappiing the DNA! I totally missed that in the excitement of what was happening haha! So... now I am not sure what to think. I havr lots of theories - or McAllister could just be Red John. </p><p>Gosh I can't wait to find out. </p>

<p>One thing I'm curious about, is how did McAllister keep from knocking himself out with the first blast, if everyone else was knocked out?  The idea that Haffner and Stiles could still be alive, would explain this.  Stiles could have covered his head with that thick-ass robe, thrown the stun grenade to the other side of the room, maybe just far enough to avoid the effects of the stun grenade, and then woke McAllister up earlier than the others to move the bodies.  Someone put up a link to a photo of The Great Red Dragon some time ago, which was from a scene not shown, in which Patrick looks behind him while he has his guns toward the three tattooed blake associates.  This could have been where Stiles or Haffner threw the stun grenade?? </p>

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He wanted the story to end. Stiles might have known who the red john is. It seems strange that he stopped Patrick from killing McAllister. He kept the other two alive so Patrick would go after them.</i></div>
Or Stiles was simply doing a good deed. Or he too wanted the real Red John to be destroyed there, no strings attached, as a favor for all the trouble RJ's caused Visualize. Plus, Visualize was Stiles' primary passion but he has been shown to be drawn towards mental challenges and he may have wanted to play a role in the unmasking of RJ. </div> <p>
Or maybe Stiles just did not want to be splattered with blood as he was sitting next to him... </p>

<p>Seems to me that much of the "opposition" to McCalister being Red John was that McCalister seemed to lack the intelligence or charisma to command such loyalty of followers or to plan his battle with such skills. </p><p>I disagree.   Look at real serial killers.    Most of them are only slightly above average in intelligence and for the most part are losers overall in the game of life.   Look at Charles Manson.   He had the loyalty of a group of killers yet absolutely nothing about him personally seems that compelling.    Look at David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz.    He was a mailman for crying out loud! </p><p>As for how McCalister pulled off his crimes and played his games with Patrick Jane,  remember that he started the Blake Association.    When you have a group of law enforcement officials in what seems to be EVERY agency in California you don't have to be brilliant to pull something like that off. </p><p>
</p><p>I have no doubt that though the timeline is jumping two years ahead we'll see more Red John acolytes in the future.    The Red John follower fleeing the church (woman with the knife) was proof that they don't plan to completely retire the storyline.   </p><p>The big difference now is that Patrick Jane has to reach for something more than vengence.   He has to seek justice to continue his pursuit of Red John acolytes. </p>