<p>So, then ...
</p><p>I think Jane's dad, Alex Jane, makes the best serial killer Red John-- colorful and we have an interesting background probably including time at Visualize. Plus, Alex Jane pretty well matches the old RJ descriptions.
</p><p>But, Jason Lennon (the womens' shelter killer guy Jane catches and Lorelei shoots the last time Jane and Lorelei meet) is a good prospect, too.
</p><p>Either way, the old Red John has been killed off; the serial killer RJ is out of the game.
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I'm sticking with Lorelei as 'Red John' working for the FBI to nail the Tiger Tiger group.
</p><p>- Lorelei's death was faked & Jane knew it.
</p><p>- The 'list of RJ suspects' came from Lorelei. Jane knew that, too. So, he accepted it as his list and pretended to be amazed by RJ's psychic powers.
</p><p>BTW: The business of Lorelei torturing and killing Julia Howard (the woman who ran the womens' shelter) for information about the killing of Lorelei's sister? That was faked-- an FBI setup to deflect interest in Lorelei as 'Red John' and FBI. The fact that it 'happened' to be filmed by a hidden home security cam is the giveaway.
</p><p>Lorelei's connection to Jane? Lorelei is "Carmen", the sick little girl who shows up in a flashback to Jane's carney days with his dad (in episode "Throwing Fire). The 'ancient crystal' (maybe with extra help from Patrick) worked! Carmen got well and grew up with fond memories of that carney boy named "Patrick Jane".
</p><p>As the FBI's 'Red John', Lorelei easily walked in and out of federal prisons when she wished.
</p><p>Lorelei built the 'Red John' organization depending mostly upon women recruited from shelters. Always presenting herself as Red John's trusted agent, she made sure her agents were well supported. (The agent who gave Jane the video and later took poison? Faked. Easy for the FBI. No telling how many other deaths of 'Red John'-Lorelei agents were faked.)
</p><p>When I mentioned the FBI-Lorelei = 'Red John' idea to someone (named "Stoopkid") a few days back, he commented "the Blue Bird herself".
</p><p>Darn interesting thought. (Maybe, even, psychic!) Fits so well. Lorelei's FBI code name could be "Blue Bird". That would mean Heller used the name of 'Red John' for the final episode!
</p><p>.
I think Haffner is head of Tiger Tiger. So, maybe, Lorelei ends up shooting him to save Jane.
</p><p>The 3-dot tattoo? Bet it's a red herring-- probably some harmless Law enforcement fraternity. So, McAllister and Bertram are not Tiger Tiger; may be that they are totally innocent.
</p><p>.
No telling about the 'Jisbon' thing; may work out nicely as far as it goes. But, once Jane wakes up it will poof; and, Lisbon will know nothing about it.
</p><p>Should be a good conclusion.
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<div class="quote"><i>Rana2013 wrote:
Salam to everyone, in the next episode preview... was the explosion at Jane's house or Regsby's house? or another place.</i></div>
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Jane's house </p>
Salam to everyone, in the next episode preview... was the explosion at Jane's house or Regsby's house? or another place.</i></div>
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Jane's house </p>
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Thank you so much!</i></div>
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yw! </p>
Thank you so much!</i></div>
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yw! </p>
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Which episodes are crucial for following the Red John case since s05e17? I lost interest in the other stories but still interested in the main one.</i></div>
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For sure, 5-16 is critical. </p><p>After 5-17 my list is ... </p><p>(++ = critical) </p><p>5-18
5-22 ++ </p><p>6-1
6-2 </p><p>6-4
6-5
6-6 ++ (significant break near the end; remaining listed episodes are still worthwhile)
6-7
6-8
6-9 </p><p>6-11 </p>
Which episodes are crucial for following the Red John case since s05e17? I lost interest in the other stories but still interested in the main one.</i></div>
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For sure, 5-16 is critical. </p><p>After 5-17 my list is ... </p><p>(++ = critical) </p><p>5-18
5-22 ++ </p><p>6-1
6-2 </p><p>6-4
6-5
6-6 ++ (significant break near the end; remaining listed episodes are still worthwhile)
6-7
6-8
6-9 </p><p>6-11 </p>
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i liked the jisbon, but i think they should have explained a few things about red john such as the list of suspect.. hope they do in season 7</i></div>
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What about the list of suspects has not been explained? </p>
i liked the jisbon, but i think they should have explained a few things about red john such as the list of suspect.. hope they do in season 7</i></div>
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What about the list of suspects has not been explained? </p>
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<div class="quote"> <p>Evidently, '<i>Mentalist </i>will likely premiere in January on Tuesdays or Thursdays at 8PM or 9PM Central Time. </p> </i></div>
Why do you think Tuesday or Thursday? Also I keep reading about this being a 13-episode season. What is the source of that? I cannot find anything from a reliable source about the number of episodes or the day/time it the show will air. The only thing I have seen from CBS is that the show will be renewed for a 7th season. I am VERY happy about the renewal and hope for as many episodes as possible.</div> <p>
Me, too. </p><p>"Tuesdays or Thurdays" and the time slot is speculation from one report. Some fans have been promoting a return to Thursday nights. Right now, Thursday does seem to be a pretty good bet for Season 7. </p><p>A January 2015 (maybe late December 2014) startup for Season 7 looks pretty certain. That means the '<i>Mentalist</i> Season 7 is about half a full season. So, expect 13 episodes. </p><p>Here is the CBS 2014 Fall Schedule from TV Fanatic ... </p><p><font color="yellow">MONDAY</font>
8 pm The Big Bang Theory
8:30 Mom
9 pm SCORPION
10 pm NCIS: Los Angeles
</p><p><font color="yellow">TUESDAY</font>
8 pm NCIS
9 pm NCIS: NEW ORLEANS
10 pm Person of Interest
</p><p><font color="yellow">WEDNESDAY</font>
8 pm Survivor
9 pm Criminal Minds
10 pm STALKER
</p><p><font color="yellow">THURSDAY</font>
8 pm Thursday Night Football
(NOTE: The Big Bang Theory, The Millers, Two and a Half Men, The McCarthys and Elementary will all return to Thursdays on October 30)
</p><p><font color="yellow">FRIDAY</font>
8 pm The Amazing Race
9 pm Hawaii Five-0
10 pm Blue Bloods
</p><p><font color="yellow">SUNDAY</font>
7 pm 60 Minutes
8 pm MADAM SECRETARY
9 pm The Good Wife
10 pm CSI </p><p>As you can see, the 10PM (ET) Sunday slot goes to a the new CSI series. 'Mentalist will not show up on schedules until the second half of the season. </p>
<div class="quote"> <p>Evidently, '<i>Mentalist </i>will likely premiere in January on Tuesdays or Thursdays at 8PM or 9PM Central Time. </p> </i></div>
Why do you think Tuesday or Thursday? Also I keep reading about this being a 13-episode season. What is the source of that? I cannot find anything from a reliable source about the number of episodes or the day/time it the show will air. The only thing I have seen from CBS is that the show will be renewed for a 7th season. I am VERY happy about the renewal and hope for as many episodes as possible.</div> <p>
Me, too. </p><p>"Tuesdays or Thurdays" and the time slot is speculation from one report. Some fans have been promoting a return to Thursday nights. Right now, Thursday does seem to be a pretty good bet for Season 7. </p><p>A January 2015 (maybe late December 2014) startup for Season 7 looks pretty certain. That means the '<i>Mentalist</i> Season 7 is about half a full season. So, expect 13 episodes. </p><p>Here is the CBS 2014 Fall Schedule from TV Fanatic ... </p><p><font color="yellow">MONDAY</font>
8 pm The Big Bang Theory
8:30 Mom
9 pm SCORPION
10 pm NCIS: Los Angeles
</p><p><font color="yellow">TUESDAY</font>
8 pm NCIS
9 pm NCIS: NEW ORLEANS
10 pm Person of Interest
</p><p><font color="yellow">WEDNESDAY</font>
8 pm Survivor
9 pm Criminal Minds
10 pm STALKER
</p><p><font color="yellow">THURSDAY</font>
8 pm Thursday Night Football
(NOTE: The Big Bang Theory, The Millers, Two and a Half Men, The McCarthys and Elementary will all return to Thursdays on October 30)
</p><p><font color="yellow">FRIDAY</font>
8 pm The Amazing Race
9 pm Hawaii Five-0
10 pm Blue Bloods
</p><p><font color="yellow">SUNDAY</font>
7 pm 60 Minutes
8 pm MADAM SECRETARY
9 pm The Good Wife
10 pm CSI </p><p>As you can see, the 10PM (ET) Sunday slot goes to a the new CSI series. 'Mentalist will not show up on schedules until the second half of the season. </p>
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<p>Or, as we say, "If you're ever gonna kiss me, it had better be Season 6!"
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Yea, I like to have it on Sundays better, even though it got cut off by football and everything, the season will only be 13-14 episodes and end soon so I think they should leave it as is.</i></div>
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You'd think so. But, it looks like a new CSI (<i>CSI: Cyber</i>) will get the '<i>Mentalist</i> Sunday spot. </p><p>Evidently, '<i>Mentalist </i>will likely premiere in January on Tuesdays or Thursdays at 8PM or 9PM Central Time. </p>
Yea, I like to have it on Sundays better, even though it got cut off by football and everything, the season will only be 13-14 episodes and end soon so I think they should leave it as is.</i></div>
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You'd think so. But, it looks like a new CSI (<i>CSI: Cyber</i>) will get the '<i>Mentalist</i> Sunday spot. </p><p>Evidently, '<i>Mentalist </i>will likely premiere in January on Tuesdays or Thursdays at 8PM or 9PM Central Time. </p>
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God, you talk a lot of crap.</i></div>
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Piffle. Just "Si" is fine. </p><p>What stuff do you think is crap? </p>
God, you talk a lot of crap.</i></div>
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Piffle. Just "Si" is fine. </p><p>What stuff do you think is crap? </p>
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<p>Nice episode. Maybe an "8"; except knocked down a bit for being a lemon "conclusion".
</p><p>Hard to believe it was supposed to serve as the series conclusion-- i.e. with just a 'brige in case the series was extended'.
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<span style="color:rgb(150,150,128);font-family:proxima-nova,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:25.600000381469727px;">....</span><span style="color:rgb(150,150,128);font-family:proxima-nova,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:25.600000381469727px;">so, if they could return TM on thursdays, that would be great...</span></i></div>
<p>Not so sure about that. '<i>Mentalist</i> has won a pretty good Sunday night viewership. May be 'the worst' time slot; but, that's what viewers are used to.
</p><p>Could be best to leave scheduling 'as is' for the first 13 episodes of Season 7. </p>
<span style="color:rgb(150,150,128);font-family:proxima-nova,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:25.600000381469727px;">....</span><span style="color:rgb(150,150,128);font-family:proxima-nova,sans-serif;font-size:16px;line-height:25.600000381469727px;">so, if they could return TM on thursdays, that would be great...</span></i></div>
<p>Not so sure about that. '<i>Mentalist</i> has won a pretty good Sunday night viewership. May be 'the worst' time slot; but, that's what viewers are used to.
</p><p>Could be best to leave scheduling 'as is' for the first 13 episodes of Season 7. </p>
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<p>Rated it a "9". That was a very well done 'straight procedural' (continuation) episode. Great villain! Good on the Jane + Lisbon angle, too.
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Holy crap, season seven is actually happening!</i></div>
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Yep. Thing is, on Sunday nights, '<i>Mentalist</i> ranks as a big hit. Forget about plain ratings, what counts is viewer numbers; and, the series continues to match or beat everything around, including shows with better time slots. </p><p>Aside from the fact that the network just plain has nothing to replace <i>The Mentalist</i>, CBS has to figure that the series works to support '<i>Good Wife</i> as a Sunday night viewing pair. </p><p>Seems like the extension is a smart decision. </p>
Holy crap, season seven is actually happening!</i></div>
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Yep. Thing is, on Sunday nights, '<i>Mentalist</i> ranks as a big hit. Forget about plain ratings, what counts is viewer numbers; and, the series continues to match or beat everything around, including shows with better time slots. </p><p>Aside from the fact that the network just plain has nothing to replace <i>The Mentalist</i>, CBS has to figure that the series works to support '<i>Good Wife</i> as a Sunday night viewing pair. </p><p>Seems like the extension is a smart decision. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Séraphin 2610 wrote:
Th ey make a really good couple!!! ><</i></div>
<p>In the current storyline, they surely seem to. </p><p>Was one little glitch though. It came up when Jane told Lisbon he likes that she is so predictable. I think that's a problem. </p><p>Another thing is that ending this season with Lisbon and Jane 'resolved' as openly a couple in love makes a 'Season 7' series contiuation less attractive. It's like what's happened in <i>Bones</i> and what happened in <i>X-Files</i>. Once the romantic tension is gone, the series is no longer so interesting and fun. </p>
Th ey make a really good couple!!! ><</i></div>
<p>In the current storyline, they surely seem to. </p><p>Was one little glitch though. It came up when Jane told Lisbon he likes that she is so predictable. I think that's a problem. </p><p>Another thing is that ending this season with Lisbon and Jane 'resolved' as openly a couple in love makes a 'Season 7' series contiuation less attractive. It's like what's happened in <i>Bones</i> and what happened in <i>X-Files</i>. Once the romantic tension is gone, the series is no longer so interesting and fun. </p>
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I don't think the woman who confronted Patrick in the Church will be making a comeback. In real life the actress is Robin Tunney's sister. She happened to be visiting the set and they created the part on the spot as a favor.</i></div>
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That's cool to know! Partly explains the <i>Alice in Wonderland</i>-ish feel of her appearance. </p><p>Nice that 'the woman in the chapel' turns out to be a decent clue about the situation. For sure, it's been analyzed to pieces here. </p>
I don't think the woman who confronted Patrick in the Church will be making a comeback. In real life the actress is Robin Tunney's sister. She happened to be visiting the set and they created the part on the spot as a favor.</i></div>
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That's cool to know! Partly explains the <i>Alice in Wonderland</i>-ish feel of her appearance. </p><p>Nice that 'the woman in the chapel' turns out to be a decent clue about the situation. For sure, it's been analyzed to pieces here. </p>
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<i>Is the women from the graveyard going to show before the end of season 6 first part. She was clearly seen walking off in the background. A women confronted as she was should have been coming to the police not going the other way.</i> </font> </p><p><i><font color="lightgreen">Someone clearly left threads to keep it going or it's very bad editing work. Please USA come to the UK's rescue one more time don't let a good thing die. If you don't then my sister will from a broken heart. </font></i> </p><p>
<font color="lightgreen">Pretty sure that question will be answered. </font> </p><p>
</p><p><i><font color="white">which woman on what graveyard? could you tell me the number of the episode, or you are refering to the woman in the black dress that patrick knocked with some sort of bat when RJ was scaping the church?? anyway please told me. </font></i> </p><p>
Episode is "Red John". Looks like the original question came from taking a bystander woman in a black pantsuit visiting a grave (who crys out upon seeing the bloody McAllister) to be the same as the woman in a black dress walking away as the FBI arrives (who is 'the woman in the chapel'). </p><p>You can see how that could be confusing. We surely would not expect the bystanded to just walk away practically shunning the police. </p><p>
<i><font color="white">another concern, will they bring back the famous encripted file that partick used against fbi in order to not go to prison?? because im very curious about that, and after those episodes they never treat the topic againg, so...</font></i> </p><p>
Maybe that will come up in this Sunday's episode when Jane gets arrested for killing Red John. </p><p>Otherwise, it may only be indirectly explained. </p>
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<i>Is the women from the graveyard going to show before the end of season 6 first part. She was clearly seen walking off in the background. A women confronted as she was should have been coming to the police not going the other way.</i> </font> </p><p><i><font color="lightgreen">Someone clearly left threads to keep it going or it's very bad editing work. Please USA come to the UK's rescue one more time don't let a good thing die. If you don't then my sister will from a broken heart. </font></i> </p><p>
<font color="lightgreen">Pretty sure that question will be answered. </font> </p><p>
</p><p><i><font color="white">which woman on what graveyard? could you tell me the number of the episode, or you are refering to the woman in the black dress that patrick knocked with some sort of bat when RJ was scaping the church?? anyway please told me. </font></i> </p><p>
Episode is "Red John". Looks like the original question came from taking a bystander woman in a black pantsuit visiting a grave (who crys out upon seeing the bloody McAllister) to be the same as the woman in a black dress walking away as the FBI arrives (who is 'the woman in the chapel'). </p><p>You can see how that could be confusing. We surely would not expect the bystanded to just walk away practically shunning the police. </p><p>
<i><font color="white">another concern, will they bring back the famous encripted file that partick used against fbi in order to not go to prison?? because im very curious about that, and after those episodes they never treat the topic againg, so...</font></i> </p><p>
Maybe that will come up in this Sunday's episode when Jane gets arrested for killing Red John. </p><p>Otherwise, it may only be indirectly explained. </p>
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Is the women from the graveyard going to show before the end of season 6 first part. She was clearly seen walking off in the background. A women confronted as she was should have been coming to the police not going the other way. <p>Someone clearly left threads to keep it going or it's very bad editing work. Please USA come to the UK's rescue one more time don't let a good thing die. If you don't then my sister will from a broken heart. </p> </i></div>
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Think I should re-answer your question. </p><p>Originally, my take was that you must be talking about the woman who entered the chapel and attacked Jane with a knife in the "Red John" episode (6-8). She's been mentioned in several threads. </p><p>Nagging problem with that idea was your comment about how she should have gone to the police instead of going the other way. Didn't really make sense that the woman who tried to kill Jane would want to go to the police. </p><p>. </p><p>So, went ahead and rewatched that part of the "Red John" episode. </p><p>I bet the woman you are talking about is the one in black by a grave stone who is frightened when McAllister shows up on the run and all bloody from being shot by Jane. Her cry attracts Jane. </p><p>McAllister takes off running. Then, Jane spots her and runs up and asks which way McAllister went and she points in the direction he ran. Jane runs off on the trail of McAllister. </p><p>A few minutes later the FBI squad arrives at the graveyard and we see a woman in black walking away. </p><p>The answer to your question is that the woman walking away is <i>not </i>the woman by the grave stone. The one by the gravestone is wearing a black pantsuit. She does not appear again. </p><p>The one we see walking away is wearing a long black dress. It is the woman from the chapel who attacked Jane! She wants nothing to do with police. </p>
Is the women from the graveyard going to show before the end of season 6 first part. She was clearly seen walking off in the background. A women confronted as she was should have been coming to the police not going the other way. <p>Someone clearly left threads to keep it going or it's very bad editing work. Please USA come to the UK's rescue one more time don't let a good thing die. If you don't then my sister will from a broken heart. </p> </i></div>
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Think I should re-answer your question. </p><p>Originally, my take was that you must be talking about the woman who entered the chapel and attacked Jane with a knife in the "Red John" episode (6-8). She's been mentioned in several threads. </p><p>Nagging problem with that idea was your comment about how she should have gone to the police instead of going the other way. Didn't really make sense that the woman who tried to kill Jane would want to go to the police. </p><p>. </p><p>So, went ahead and rewatched that part of the "Red John" episode. </p><p>I bet the woman you are talking about is the one in black by a grave stone who is frightened when McAllister shows up on the run and all bloody from being shot by Jane. Her cry attracts Jane. </p><p>McAllister takes off running. Then, Jane spots her and runs up and asks which way McAllister went and she points in the direction he ran. Jane runs off on the trail of McAllister. </p><p>A few minutes later the FBI squad arrives at the graveyard and we see a woman in black walking away. </p><p>The answer to your question is that the woman walking away is <i>not </i>the woman by the grave stone. The one by the gravestone is wearing a black pantsuit. She does not appear again. </p><p>The one we see walking away is wearing a long black dress. It is the woman from the chapel who attacked Jane! She wants nothing to do with police. </p>
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<p>Think it was one of the two best "New Life" episodes, with "My Blue Heaven" being the other. Third would be "White Lines".
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Who was the lady truck driver what was her name she seemed familiar</i></div>
<p>Think the lady truck driver is named "Claudia Fornham", played by Carol Kiernan. </p><p>There is a pic and some info about the actress on IMDb here. </p>
Who was the lady truck driver what was her name she seemed familiar</i></div>
<p>Think the lady truck driver is named "Claudia Fornham", played by Carol Kiernan. </p><p>There is a pic and some info about the actress on IMDb here. </p>
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